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The Engine Chart
Contributed by Andre, somewhere...
INTRODUCTION - What's happening
STUFF NEEDED - Always wanting something
STUFF LEFT OUT - What and why some stuff is ignored
PAINT COLOURS - Handy dandy engine colour chart
HANDY FORMULAE - Conversions to perversions
CHRYSLER ENGINE VIN CODES - How to tell what's what
ENGINE CHART - More, MORE!, than you thought possible
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INTRODUCTION
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This is pretty much the final edition of the Engine Chart. While
there is no doubt that things can be added, it's getting pretty
big.
What started out as an innocent confusion on my part between the 3.8
and the 3.9 Chrysler V6's has turned into quite the pile of numbers.
Engines from 1914 to the present are listed.
These are assorted engines that have appeared in various Chrysler
built or sold vehicles. These include Plymouth, Dodge, DeSoto,
Chrysler, Imperial, Hillman, Sunbeam, Rootes, Simca, Talbot, Jeep
and Fargo.
Maxwell, Chalmers, Nash and Hudson are not included.
Contributors, some unwitting.
George L. Barg Robert Jurca
David Blankenbaker George Kulp
Shane Bortoli Steve Lacker
Marty Bose Joe Pfeiffer
Jeff Brown Paul M. Pitcher
Ed Campbell Daty Rogers
Paul Elosge Kenneth D. Rolt
Andy Garland Dan Stern
Jim Gleason Lynn Travers
Gary Hamel David Wright
Ed Hennessy
There's also those I've forgotten. :/
There may well be engines missing.
Some of the engines are named the way they are because I don't know
the designation, so I just listed the first car that particular
engine family appeared in (eg: K-Car for the 2.2 and 2.5)
I would consider an engine to be in the same family if it shared
major component (oil pumps, water pumps, say) and had the same bore
centers. Thus, B's and RB's are the same family.
Some engine groups (the Europeans come to mind) are not split into
families, even though I'm quite certain that there were indeed
families. I just don't have the info.
Measurments are Imperial (SAE) or SI, depending ... A 318 is a 318
is a 318, even though it's now called a 5.2. The 3.9l V6, which is
a 318 V8 with two cylinders surgically removed, has always been
called the 3.9 and not its' Imperial displacement of ~238 CID. The
3.9 has its' bore and stroke given in inches (like the 318) but its
displacement in litres. Confusion does not reign, it pours.
Generally, whatever the original designations was, is the one that
is used.
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STUFF NEEDED
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Anybody know anything about Chrysler outboards? ;-)
How about SnowRunners (is that the name?) for that matter?
Does Volvo-Penta have anything to do with Chrysler?
Anyone have extra info on the Cummins?
Could one of the Fordnatics get the Bore and Stroke of the
260 and 289 and the Flathead V8?
The proper designation of several engines would be nice.
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STUFF LEFT OUT
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The main thing that is left out is the horsepower (or for that
matter kw/h) ratings of the engines. These ratings varied over
the years as compression ratios waxed and waned and as emmission
regulations took their strangle hold.
The ratings also varied with carburation, cam timing and all
those assorted goodies near and dear to a gear-head's heart.
This thing is big enough as it is, without listing every possible
power rating that, say, a 383 (which one?) ever had.
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PAINT COLOURS
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While this colour chart could be considered fairly accurate,
never say never when it comes to what is and what isn't. If this
chart says that there's no way your engine should be this
particular colour, but it is, and you know it left the factory
that way, well... You're right.
a. Black (P4120753).
All production Jeep engines, as well as 2.2L engines since 81 and
318 and 360 engines since 83.
b. Race Hemi Orange (P4120751).
A bright orange colour used on Max Wedge engines (413 and 426
Cross Ram) during 1962-64. Also used on 426 Race Hemis built
in 64-65.
c. Street Hemi Orange (P4349216).
A reddish-orange colour used on 426 Street Hemis built in 1966-71.
Commonly referred to as "Hemi Orange." 1969-71, high performance
383 and 440 engines, and 1970-71, 340 engines were also painted in
this colour.
d. Turquoise (P4120752).
This medium blue-green colour was used on all B/RB big block
engines during 1962-71. Also used on LA 340's in 69
e. Red (P4349218).
This is the bright red colour used on all 273 engines from
1964-69 Also, the 1968-69 340 engines and most mid-1960s (and
later) 318 engines were finished in this colour. A lot of the
60's slant 6's were painted this colour also.
The "red" paint mentioned above is NOT THE SAME as the "red" that
MP sells, nor does commercially available (Krylon, Plasti-Cote)
"Chrysler Red" paint match the original colour on many '60-'69
Slant-6s".
There is an exact match for the slightly orangish red used on
some 60-69 \6 engines. NAPA farm equipment spray paint,
International-Harvester red. Made by Martin-Senour(sp?) paints,
available through NAPA.
f. Blue (P4349217).
This medium blue colour was used on all production engines from
1972-1983 with the exception of the 2.2L engine. Most 318 engines
built from the late 1960s through 1972 were painted this colour.
g. Yellow (P4529144).
Despite what the MP catalogue says, this colour was ONLY used on
truck \6s, from mid '63 to mid '69.
h. Aluminum Silver (P4529148).
This colour was used as far back as the 1940s and as late as the
early 1960s. Most of the early Hemis and 1950s engines were
painted this colour.
Silver was also used on all the flathead 6's except that
the performance option in the 30's included a high compression
head that was painted bright red. (Plymouth Testa Rossa? -- Cool)
i. Gold Metallic (P4529149).
The "Golden Lion" engines of the late 50s and early 60s as well
as the "Golden Commando" and DeSoto "Adventurer" engines used the
colour.
j. Blue (colour code never appeared in manuals)
Slightly darker then the standard blue used on the 70's LA
engines. Paint also turned Turquoise with heat. Even Galen
does not have a spec for mixing.
This paint was used on a lot of 340' and other LA engines
in late 69.
Most of us use Blue (P4349217) to repaint and the judges agree.
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HANDY FORMULAE
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Displacement = PI * (bore / 2)^2 * stroke * cylinders
CID = cc / 16.387
CID = litre * 1000 / 16.387
litre = cc / 1000
litre = CID * 16.387 / 1000
* Watch for significant digits and rounding, esp. litres
* Make sure bore and stroke figures are both in the same units.
(Inches, mm, cm, furlongs, whatever)
* When calculating metric engines, and bore/stroke numbers are in
millimeters, divide the final result by 1000 to get the
displacement in cc instead of mm^3.
eg: LA 318, bore : 3.91 inches
stroke : 3.31 inches
cylinders: 8
Displacement: 3.1416 * (3.91 / 2)^2 * 3.31 * 8 = 317.95 ~= 318 CID
In Litres : 318 * 16.387 / 1000 = 5.211 ~= 5.2 Litres
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CHRYSLER ENGINE VIN CODES
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Version 1.4
Compiled by: Ed Hennessy,
Sources: Hembree Blue Book (1966-1967)
Hollander VIN Decoder (1968- )
Thanks to David Wright and Lynn Travers of
the Shelby Dodge Auto Club MidWest for 1966 and
turbo corrections. Chrysler's TC by Maserati info courtesy George
Kulp .
Engine type is coded in Chrysler VINs beginning in 1966. Prior to
'66, the VIN only distinguished a 6 cylinder model from an 8
cylinder model. Chrysler used two VIN systems. The first, used
from 1966-1980, has 13 digits, and the engine code is the 5th digit.
The second has 17 digits and the engine code is the 8th digit. As
usual, there's an exception. Chrysler's TC by Maserati has the
engine VIN digit in the *fifth* position.
(Jeep used the AMC system until a few years after Chrysler acquired
it. Jeep then switched to the Chrysler conventions. See below.)
Knowing the year of the car is often necessary to determine which
engine code to use. The year is coded in the 6th (13-digit system)
or the 10th digit. (In both cases, the year code is 8 characters
from the end of the VIN, or 2 characters before the six-digit
sequential build number.) From 1966 to 1979, the last number of the
calendar year was used, and 6 through 9 were repeated (0 *was* used
for 1970). Beginning in 1980, the year was coded alphabetically,
beginning with 'A' and skipping 'I,' 'O,' and 'Q.' (H=1987, J=1988,
N=1992, P=1993, R=1994, etc.)
This list does not include Dodge truck engine codes, which, except
for the minivans, are mostly different than those for cars. In
fact, the truck VINs use a different system, and may even omit the
engine code. (The Jeep list includes all codes from 1981,
regardless of usage.)
ENGINE VIN CODES
CODE ENGINE/YEARS CODE USED/Notes
A 170-1 1966-69
1.7-2 1978-82 (VW)
1.6-2 1983-86 (Peugeot)
2.2 T2 1987-89 (including '89 TC, 5th VIN digit)
2.2 T3 1991-93
B 225-1 1966-69
198-1 1970-74
2.2-2 1981-82
1.7-2 1983
C Special Order 6 cyl 1966-69
225-1 1970-80
2.2-2 1983-87
2.2 T4 1990
D 273 1966 (2 or 4 bbl)
273-2 1967-69
225-2 1977-80
2.6-2 1981-82
2.2 EFI 1985-94
E 318-2 1966
273-4 1967
Special order 6 cyl 1970-80
225-1 1981-82
2.2 T1 1984-88
488 V10 1992-
F 361 1966 (2 or 4 bbl)
318-2 1967-69
225-1 HD 1981-82
2.2-2 HP 1984-86
3.5 1993-
G 383 1966 (2 or 4 bbl)
383-2 1967-69
318-2 1970-80
225-2 1981-82
2.6-2 1983
H 426 Hemi 1966
383-4 HP 1967-69
340-4 1970-73
318-4 1978-80
225-1 1983
J 440 1966
426 Hemi 1967-69
340-6 1970-71
360-4 1974-79
225-1 HD 1983
2.5 T1 1989-91
K Special Order V8 1966
440-4 1967-69
360-2 1971-80
318-2 1981-82
225-2 1983
2.5 EFI 1986-95
L 440-4 HP 1967-69
383-2 1970-71
360-4 HP 1974-78
318-2 HD 1981-82
M Special Order V8 1967
440-6 1969
400-2 1972-76
318-4 1981-82
N 383-4 1970-71
400-4 1974-78
318-4 HD 1981-82
P 340-4 1968-69
400-4 1972-73
400-4 HP 1974-78
318-2 1983-89
R 426 Hemi 1970-71
318-4 1983-87
2.2 T 1989-90 TC ONLY--5th digit (DOHC Maserati head)
2.0 1990- DSM Eclipse/Talon ONLY
3.3 1990- non-LH
S 318-4 Police 1983-89
3.0 1990-91 TC code ONLY--5th digit (same Mitsu 3.0)
T 440-4 1970-77
1.8 1990- DSM Eclipse ONLY
3.3 1993- LH
U 440-4 HP 1970-77
2.0 T 1990- DSM Eclipse/Talon ONLY
3.0 1990-
V 440-6 1970-72
X 2.2 LPG 1987
Z Special Order V8 1970-78
318 LPG 1987
3 3.0 1989-
4 318-4 HD 1984-89
7 318 LPG 1987
8 2.2-2 HD 1984-86
JEEP
Engine code in VIN:
4th digit 1981-1988
8th digit 1989-
Codes from 1981-present
Unless marked as diesel or EFI, all listed engines used 2 barrel
carburetors.
CODE ENGINE/SOURCE/YEARS CODE USED/Notes
B 2.5 Pontiac 1981
2.1 diesel 1985-87
C 258 AMC 1981-88
E 2.5 EFI AMC 1989-90 unleaded gas
F 145 diesel 1981-83
G 2.5 EFI AMC 1989-90 leaded gas
H 304 AMC 1981-83
2.5 EFI AMC 1986-88
L 232 AMC 1981-83
4.0 EFI AMC 1989-90 unleaded gas
M 4.0 EFI AMC 1987-88
258 AMC 1989-90 low compression
N 360 AMC 1981-88
P 2.5 EFI AMC 1991-
S 4.0 EFI AMC 1991-
T 258 AMC 1989-90
U 2.5 AMC 1981-86
4.0 EFI AMC 1989-90 leaded gas
W 2.8 GM 1984-86
Y 2.5 AMC 1984-88 export
318 EFI CC 1993-
7 360 AMC 1989-90
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ENGINE CHART
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Below:
Angle refers to:
For inline engines:
'|0', '\nn' or '/nn', vertical, or leaning left or right
as viewed from the front (not bellhousing) end.
For V-type engines:
'vnn' for the angle between the banks.
In both cases, nn refers to the angle in degrees.
OHV - pushrod operated OverHead Valves
SOHC - Single OverHead Cam
DOHC - Dual OverHead Cam
SV - Side Valve (Flathead)
Anything blank or marked with a question mark
is either unknown (for now) or uncertain.
Engines included (in no particular order)
K-Car
Neon
3.3
G/RG
Polyspheric engines (A?)
Whale of a Hemi
LA
B/RB
Dodge Brothers
Flatheads, The early years
'Small Block' Flathead sixes
'Big Block' Flathead sixes
Flathead straight eights
AMC
Turbine
Rumour Mills
Rootes Group
Simca/Matra
Mitsubishi
International-Harvester
Cummins
Ford
Volkswagen
Peugeot
Renault
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K-Car ---------------------------------
Disp Cyl Angle Years Bore Strk Other Info
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2.2 4 \?? 81-94 87.5 92.0 SOHC, Carb, TBI or Turbo I/II
2.2 4 \?? 87.5 92.0 SOHC, Turbo IV, VNT
2.2 4 \?? 87.5 92.0 DOHC, Turbo III, Lotus head
2.2 4 \?? 89-90 87.5 92.0 DOHC, Maserati head, only on TC
2.5 4 \?? 86-95 87.5 104.0 balance shafts
-The Turbo III's heads were cast by Lotus, designed by Shelby
-Maserati heads were also referred to as Turbo III (?)
-Maserati Turbo III uses different head, pistons, connecting rods,
and crankshaft compared to any other Chrysler 2.2L turbo.
No parts are interchangeable with any other Chrysler 2.2 turbo.
-Only 500 Chrysler/Maserati TCs were produced with the 16 V head
-The 2.5 was a raised deck version of the SOHC 2.2 before 88(?),
-(Proper designation?)
Neon ----------------------------------
Disp Cyl Angle Years Bore Strk Other Info
---- --- ----- ----- ---- ---- ----------
2.0 4 \?? 95- 87.5 83.0 both SOHC and DOHC, 4Valve/cyl
2.4 4 \?? 95- DOHC, stretched 2.0
-'Reversed' 2.0 is base engine in Eagle Talon/Dodge Avenger.(?)
-bore spacing 96mm (same as K-Car)
-Very, very loosly based on 2.2 design.
-(Proper designation?)
3.3 -----------------------------------
Disp Cyl Angle Years Bore Strk Other Info
---- --- ----- ----- ---- ---- ----------
3.3 6 v60 90- 93.0 81.0 OHV, roller lifters, short skirt
3.5 6 v60 90- 96.0 81.0 SOHC. 24valve,deep skirt,cross bolt
3.8 6 v60 90- 96.0 86.9 stretched 3.3, OHV
-All have Iron block, Aluminum heads
-(Proper designation?)
G/RG ----------------------------------
Disp Cyl Angle Years Bore Strk Other Info
---- --- ----- ----- ---- ---- ----------
170 6 \30 60-69 3.40 3.125 G Slant Six
198 6 \30 70-74 3.40 3.64 RG Raised Deck
225 6 \30 60-87 3.40 4.125 RG
-All OHV.
-Some 61-63 built with die-cast aluminum block
-All have Iron Heads, even the Aluminum Block
-the 170 continued on in export markets for some time
-Built until 92 as an industrial/Export Market truck engine
-ENGINE COLOURS:
60-61 Plymouth-Dodge: metallic aquamarine or "Aluminum Silver"
60-61 Valiant/Lancer: red.
62-early 69, all passenger car Slant-6s: red.
61-early 63 Dodge Truck Slant-6s: red.
63-69 Dodge Truck Slant-6s: yellow.
mid '69-'83 or '84: Chrysler Blue.
84 on up: black.
These are for the USA/Canada cars only. We know that in South
Africa, for instance, the 2bbl Slant-6 was orange with a black
valve cover, while in Australia the same 2bbl Slant-6 got a
nice Fuji-Film green.
Polyspheric engines (A?)---------------
Disp Cyl Angle Years Bore Strk Other Info
---- --- ----- ----- ---- ---- ----------
241 8 v90 55 3.44 3.25 Plymouth. this is right
260 8 v90 55 3.56 3.25 Plymouth
270 8 v90 56 3.63 3.25 Plymouth
303 8 v90 56 3.81 3.31 Plymouth Fury
277 8 v90 56-57 3.75 3.13 Plymouth
301 8 v90 57 3.91 3.13 Plymouth. called 301, but is 299.6
325 8 v90 57-59? 3.69 3.80 Dodge & 57 DeSoto.
318 8 v90 57-66 3.91 3.31 Plymouth Plymouth only 57-58
326 8 v90 59 3.95 3.31 Dodge Coronet
-Plymouth used 318 poly & 350 wedge(B) in 58, 318 and 361 in 59, 60.
-303 came out first, in 56, then the 301.
-The 301 and 303 may also be 'A' engines, based on bore and stroke,
(and probably the 277), but don't know about the 241, 260, or 270.
-The 241 and 270 appear to be poly-head versions of the
Dodge Hemi (see below) bore and stroke are the same.
Whale of a Hemi -----------------------
Disp Cyl Angle Years Bore Strk Other Info
---- --- ----- ----- ---- ---- ----------
241 8 v90 53-55 3.31 3.25 Dodge. This BxS workes out to
223.7, probably should be 3.44x3.25
like Plymouth 241 poly
270 8 v90 55-56 3.63 3.25 Dodge
315 8 v90 56 3.63 3.80 Dodge
326 8 v90 59 3.95 3.31 Dodge Coronet
276 8 v90 52-55 3.63 3.34 Desoto 160 HP w/2v, same as
303 Olds 4v and 331 Caddy 2v
291 8 v90 55 3.72 3.34 Desoto. One year only
330 8 v90 56 3.72 3.80 Desoto. One year only
341 8 v90 56-57 3.78 3.80 Desoto. 343 HP in 57, > 1 HP/CI
345 8 v90 57 3.80 3.80 Desoto. One year
301 8 v90 55 3.63 3.63 Chrysler. Windsor only (Maybe a Poly?)
331 8 v90 51-56 3.81 3.63 Chrysler. Imperial 51-55.
180 HP w/2v BBD, 20>than Caddy 331
354 8 v90 56-58 3.94 3.63 Chrysler. Imperial for 56
392 8 v90 57-58 4.00 3.90 Chrysler. Imperial 57-58
-There were no Plymouth early Hemis. ( not from the factory d;^) )
-pre '55 Hemis were built in small, medium, and big block
configurations. Parts commonality was superficial.
-55 and later engines started moving toward the big
block/small block commonality of the wedge engines,
but even then, parts interchangability was the exception.
-They appear to be the same engine among each make, at least.
-Seems to be some cross-over with Poly's
LA ------------------------------------
Disp Cyl Angle Years Bore Strk Other Info
---- --- ----- ----- ---- ---- ----------
3.9 6 v90 87- 3.91 3.31 318 minus 2
273 8 v90 64-69 3.62 3.31 First LA engine.
318 8 v90 66- 3.91 3.31 aka 5.2,millions upon millions sold
340 8 v90 68-73 4.04 3.31 Bored 318, with high-flowing heads
360 8 v90 70- 4.00 3.58 aka 5.9
8.0 10 v90 92-96 4.00 3.88 Viper, First Generation
8.0 10 v90 96- 4.00 3.88 Viper, Second Generation
8.0 10 v90 94- 4.00 3.88 LA plus 2, Iron, Ram Tough
-All OHV.
-The 'L' in 'LA' stands for either 'Light' or 'Low'.
-All Iron block except Viper, Alumin(i)um block.
-318 & 3.9 received new heads & manifolding (Magnum) in 92,
360 got the same treatment in 93(?)
-LA engines have same bore spacing as 'A' engines and
could be considered and evolution of the 'A' series.
-The V10s have a deep skirt, unlike other LAs
-The Viper V10 is only loosly based on the LA
-The following information comes from Viper Quarterly magazine:
-The 1st generation Viper engine was used for 1992 - 1996 RT/10
production. When the assembly line switched to 1996 GTS coupe
production, the 1st generation engine was retired. The 2nd
generation engine will be used in all Vipers going forward,
including the 1997 RT/10's.
-Details of the 1st generation Viper V10
-"wet" cast iron liners
-liners are sealed by o-rings at the bottom and top
-coolant flows 360 degrees around the liners along the
full path of the stroke, and a little beyond (3.94")
-coolant delivery tubes exteral from the block (a design
borrowed from Lamborghini's racing engines)
-thermostat at the rear of the block
-the first 300 blocks were cast by Lamborghini in Italy,
but the casting job has since been farmed out in the U.S.
-Details of the 2nd generation Viper V10
-80 lbs lighter than the 1st gen engine
-permanent cast iron liners
-cross bolted main bearings
-coolant delivery incorparated into the block
-thermostat moved to the front of the block
B/RB ----------------------------------
Disp Cyl Angle Years Bore Strk Other Info
---- --- ----- ----- ---- ---- ----------
350 8 v90 58 4.06 3.38 B One year only
361 8 v90 58-77 4.12 3.38 B
383 8 v90 58-60 4.03 3.75 RB Actually 382.667 CID
383 8 v90 59-71 4.25 3.38 B better known 383, (383.596 CID)
413 8 v90 59-77 4.18 3.75 RB
426 8 v90 63-66 4.25 3.75 RB Wedge
426 8 v90 64-71 4.25 3.75 HEMI the Elephant!
440 8 v90 66-78 4.32 3.75 RB
400 8 v90 71-78 4.34 3.38 B Biggest bore of all B/RB engines
-Plagerized from Hemi Jim, who proudly plagerized from Hot Rod
magazine :)
-361 continued in trucks until 77, in cars only till 66
-413 continued in trucks until 77, until 73 in cars.
-RB is raised deck version of B with longer stroke, bigger mains.
-Deck height (distance between centerline of main journal and
mating surface of block to head)
B - 9.98 inches
RB - 10.725 inches (difference 0.745")
-Hemi block is based on RB, but not interchangable (cross-bolted
mains, different head mounting bolt pattern, etc).
-All OHV, including Hemi.
-75 and earlier are thick wall castings, (up to .060 overbore)
-76 and later are thin wall castings (up to .020 overbore)
-Late 68 and later 440 could also be had as HP or HP2,
internal differences for durability (con rods, crank etc)
-70 & later 440 HP2 blocks have a 1" wide strip that runs most
of the length of the block across the freeze plug hole for
extra strength. Likely all RB's got this strip.
Hemi 6 --------------------------------
Disp Cyl Angle Years Bore Strk Other Info
---- --- ----- ----- ---- ---- ----------
245 6 |0 71- 1v, 2v, 4v and triple 2v Webers ...
265 6 |0 ? ... on different versions
215 6 |0 -81
-Only built in Australia
Dodge Brothers ------------------------
Disp Cyl Angle Years Bore Strk Other Info
---- --- ----- ----- ---- ---- ----------
212 4 |0 14-? 3.875 4.500 35 hp
-1.50 inch crank diameter. Steel timing gears.
-Cam, crank and valves made of forged vanadium steel.
-Gear driven oil and water pumps.
-12V electrical system.
Inline Flatheads, The early years -----
Disp Cyl Angle Years Bore Strk Brand Other Info
---- --- ---- ----- ---- ---- ----- ----------
185.8 4 |0 26 All S-Series 58
170.3 4 |0 27-29 All
175.4 4 |0 30 Plymouth S-U
196 4 |0 30-32 Plymouth
201 6 |0 24-25 All S-all
288 6 |0 26-27 All S-Series E-80
218.6 6 |0 26-27 All S-Series G-70
180.2 6 |0 27-28 All S-Series 60
248.9 6 |0 28 All S-Series 72
309.3 6 |0 28 All S-Series 80 L
224.0 6 |0 29 Dodge
175.4 6 |0 29 Plymouth S-Model U
241.6 6 |0 29-30 Dodge
208.0 6 |0 29-30 Dodge
189.8 6 |0 30-33 Dodge 30-32, Plymouth 33
211.5 6 |0 31-32 Dodge
-Still not sure which engine is which, so these are listed together.
'Small Block' Flathead 6s -------------
Disp Cyl Angle Years Bore Strk Other Info
---- --- ----- ----- ---- ---- ----------
217.8 6 |0 32-54 Dodge 32-41, Plymouth 42-54
201.3 6 |0 33-41 Dodge 33, Plymouth 34-41
230.2 6 |0 42-59 Dodge 42-59, Plymouth 54-59
-The small flathead six was shared by Plymouth and Dodge,
in different displacements at different times.
-The head should measure about 23 inches in length on US production
engines. Canadian production engines used the 'Big Block' casting
destroked to about the US engine size.
'Big Block' Flathead 6s ---------------
Disp Cyl Angle Years Bore Strk Other Info
---- --- ----- ----- ---- ---- ----------
248.9 6 |0 29 Chrysler
309.3 6 |0 29-30 Chrysler, Imperial
174.9 6 |0 29-30 DeSoto
195.5 6 |0 29-31 Chrysler
218.6 6 |0 30-31 Chrysler
189.8 6 |0 30-31 DeSoto
268.4 6 |0 30-32 Chrysler
205.3 6 |0 31-32 DeSoto
217.8 6 |0 31-33 Chrysler 31-32, DeSoto 33
211.5 6 |0 32 DeSoto
224 6 |0 32-33 Chrysler
241.5 6 |0 34-41 Chrysler 34-41, DeSoto 34-36
228.1 6 |0 37-41 Chrysler 37, DeSoto 37-41
236.6 6 |0 42-50 DeSoto
250.6 6 |0 42-54 Chrysler 42-51, DeSoto 51-54
205.6 6 |0 46-49 Chrysler S-Royal, Windsor, T&C six
264.5 6 |0 52-54 Chrysler
-Big Flatheads were shared between Chrysler and DeSoto.
-Different displacements at different times.
-The head should measure about 25 inches in length
Flathead straight eights --------------
Disp Cyl Angle Years Bore Strk Other Info
---- --- ----- ----- ---- ---- ----------
207.7 8 |0 30-31 DeSoto
220.7 8 |0 30-32 Dodge 30-32, DeSoto 31-32
260.8 8 |0 31 Chrysler
240.3 8 |0 31-32 Chrysler 31, Dodge 31-32
282.1 8 |0 31-33 Chrysler 31-32, Dodge 32-33
384.8 8 |0 31-35 Chrysler, Imperial
298.6 8 |0 32-38 Chrysler
273.8 8 |0 33-37 Chrysler
323.5 8 |0 34-50 Chrysler
AMC -----------------------------------
Disp Cyl Angle Years Bore Strk Other Info
---- --- ----- ----- ---- ---- ----------
2.5 4 |0 85?- 3.88 3.19 Base YJ,TJ,Premier,later Dakota
258 6 |0 -88 3.75 3.90 aka 4.2Litre
4.0 6 |0 89?- 3.88 3.41 Jeep 6 Cyl, version of the 258
360 8 v90 -90 4.08 3.44 Gladiator based Grand Cherokee
-All Iron Block, Iron Head, Overhead Valve
-The 4-Cyl is more or less 2/3 of the 6-Cyl.
-The V8 is a completely different animal.
-There are quite a few variations of the six and eight.
They could be included for completness, but then again,
these variations mostly predate the Chrysler era.
-The AMC 360 CID V8 is in no way related to the LA 360
-The AMC V8 was available in sizes from 304 CID (or less)
up to 401 CID at various times.
-All 'inherited' when Chrysler bought AMC in 85.
-An earlier 2.5l 4-cyl offered in AMC vehicles was the
Pontiac 'Iron Duke'
-Earlier, AMC era Cherokees also offered the Chevrolet 2.8l V6.
Turbine -------------------------------
Des* Years Other Info
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CR1 54-56 Plymouth Belvedere 4-door, ~100 HP, Slow spool up
Poor fuel economy (13-14 MPG), No engine braking
CR2 56-57 56 Belvedere, 57 Fury, Better regenerator
Better fuel economy (18 MPG)
CR2A 60-61? 60 Fury, 62 Fury(2), 62 Dart(2), 61 Dodge 2 1/2 ton stake
Turboflite show car, 140 HP, 375lb-ft
Adjustable nozzle blades
A831 63-66 _THE_ 63 Turbine Cars.
130 HP, 425 lb-ft, much less lag
50 cars + 5 prototypes. All but ten were destroyed.
Three are still owned by CC. Six are in various auto museums.
One is unaccounted for.
A874 64 64 Plymouth(2), Same as A831 but with larger regenerators.
Gen6 64-73 Prototype Charger, 66 Coronet, 73 B-Body sedans(3)
Same as A875 but with split accsessory drive.
Gen7 77 76 4-door Aspen, Concept F-body Coupe 80 Mirada
104 HP (could be raised to 125)
-(Des*) - Designation, displacement does not apply to turbines.
-Number of cylinders, the angle between them, bore and stroke
are not applicable.
Rumour Mills --------------------------
Disp Cyl Angle Years Bore Strk Other Info
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4.4 6 v90 97- 4.00 3.58 LA 360 minus 2 cylinders
2.7 6 v60 98- replacements for ...
3.2 6 v60 98- ... current car V6's
??? ? v90 New truck engines, replace LAs
Probably 6, 8 and 10 Cyl versions
-Guesses all.
-Nothing Firm (or confirmed)
Rootes Group --------------------------
Disp Cyl Angle Years Bore Strk Other Info
---- --- ----- ----- ---- ---- ----------
1248 4 |0? 70-73 Avenger 1250
1498 4 |0? 70-73 Avenger 1.5
1295 4 |0? 73-82 Avenger 1.3, Sunbeam 1.3
1500 4 |0? Avenger, Hunter, Minx
1592 4 |0? 58-65 Gazelle 1.6, Minx, Rapier
1725 4 |0? 65-79 Gazelle 1.7/Hunter/Minx, Rapier,Alpine
875 4 |0? Hillman Imp/Singer Chamois/Stiletto/Husky
1618 4 |0? 84mm 73mm Hillman Arrow (S Africa)
1971 4 |0? 88mm 81mm Hillman Vogue (S. Africa)
1118 4 |0? 78- Horizon 1.1
1294 4 |0? 78- Horizon 1.3
1496 4 |0? 67-79 Hunter 1.5, Minx
2.2 4 |0? 77- Lotus Sunbeam
1494 4 |0? 58-65 Singer Gazelle
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